Should parents tell their kids the truth about Santa?

[Guyzerr]

Get over myself? That's rich. All I did was state my own personal opinion, I said it's not that big a deal anyway and it's up to you what you do about it.
It's the people getting all worked up because they cant hack someone having a different opinion about the most minor of things who need to get over themself.

Seems you're in the same boat as I was Peter. How do you like it now? If you can't take it don't dish it out. :24: :24:

 

[Guyzerr]

Ok, straight from the 12yr old's mouth:

No she didn't feel betrayed learning her parents lied to her. She thinks it's cool that we brought a bit of magic into her life. Like all good parents should.

Good to know on this particular subject I can indeed speak for my kid.

It seems she spoke for herself actually. You just happen to be the messenger.

I'm just shocked she believes anything that comes out of you mouth now. I just wish one person could back up all the bullshit about all the harm that Santa has caused.

 

[Peter Parka]

Seems you're in the same boat as I was Peter. How do you like it now? If you can't take it don't dish it out. :24: :24:

The difference is that I wasn't being prejudiced about people based on something they cant help which dosen't hurt anyone. For someone of your age, your stupidity at times is amazing.

 

[darkangel]

I just wish one person could back up all the bullshit about all the harm that Santa has caused.

No one can back it up cuz it doesn't cause any harm.

 

[MoonOwl]

It seems she spoke for herself actually. You just happen to be the messenger.

I'm just shocked she believes anything that comes out of you mouth now. I just wish one person could back up all the bullshit about all the harm that Santa has caused.

I was meaning my suppositions in my original post about what she thinks were indeed correct.

Why would you be surprised that she believes what we tell her? Spinning yarns about Santa et al doesn't discount integrity. As she said, she thinks that what good parents do. Give some fantasy.

Adult life can be a bitch at times. Give em a bit of sparkle before reality sets in.

One thing she doesn't get is why I want to wait to get a present til Christmas instead of Christmas Eve. When I tell her there are few good surprises in life and that it's fun to wait, she's still 12 and in the 'want it NOW' phase.

 

[edgray]

Why would you be surprised that she believes what we tell her? Spinning yarns about Santa et al doesn't discount integrity. As she said, she thinks that what good parents do. Give some fantasy.

Adult life can be a bitch at times. Give em a bit of sparkle before reality sets in.

In the universe that we live in, there's more than enough wonder out there without the need for making up things like Santa Clause. Perhaps teaching kids about the likes of Santa, Jesus and other supernatural phenomenon is taking them away from the wonder of the natural world that's all around them?

But I have no idea whether or not teaching kids about Santa is actually damaging to them though. It seems unlikely, but we will never know until it stops being taught.

 

[Guyzerr]

I was meaning my suppositions in my original post about what she thinks were indeed correct.

Why would you be surprised that she believes what we tell her? Spinning yarns about Santa et al doesn't discount integrity. As she said, she thinks that what good parents do. Give some fantasy.

Adult life can be a bitch at times. Give em a bit of sparkle before reality sets in.

One thing she doesn't get is why I want to wait to get a present til Christmas instead of Christmas Eve. When I tell her there are few good surprises in life and that it's fun to wait, she's still 12 and in the 'want it NOW' phase.

I know.. I know I was being sarcastic hence the wink. All my posts in this thread reflect what you're saying.

*** everybody is so touchy lately ***

 

[Dana]

*** everybody is so touchy lately ***

realest thing you've said :thumbup *sneaks out the back door*

 

[satinbutterfly]

Perhaps if people didn't feel the need to bash those with opposing opinions people wouldn't get touchy.

If you feel you're right in lying to your children, so be it. Justify away. But please don't take it out on those that disagree with you by insulting or baiting them. It's childish and petty.

 

[MoonOwl]

I know.. I know I was being sarcastic hence the wink. All my posts in this thread reflect what you're saying.

*** everybody is so touchy lately ***

No biggie. I thought I hadn't made myself clear is all. :cool

 

[satinbutterfly]

Oh - and as for it being permanently damaging to children or making them forever lose trust in their parents, I don't think any of us have said that.

I'm just saying - I don't think my children will lose anything by knowing Santa isn't real. Like with any fictional character I'm sure they will appreciate the stories, books and movies just as much. Just as most of you don't believe it causes harm to your child to lie to them and let them believe he's real.

To each their own.

Now please put down your damn pitch forks and torches and agree to disagree... FFS.

 

[AUFred]

I think Santa, Easter Bunny & Tooth Fairy are all choices we as parents make. There are worse decisions parents make with their children than these. As a parent I believe imagination is under used in today's society. I know when I was a kid we played a lot of games where imagination was a big part of it. Today our children play video games where they use someone else's imagination instead of their own.

 

[edgray]

I can't wait to raise a kid that knows that santa is not only a fraud, but a fraud that rewards inequality, supports destructive consumerism and perpetuates religious notions under a different guise. My child can then ruin all the other kids' Christmas Days for them

 

[Guyzerr]

No biggie. I thought I hadn't made myself clear is all. :cool

I understood you 100%. :thumbup

 

[RedRyder]

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I believed in Santa as a small child. My small child life was magical and full of surprise and wonder. I never had a doubt in my small child mind that Santa existed right along with the Tooth Fairy and Cinderella and the Easter Bunny. My dolls and stuffed animals were just as real to me then too.

I'm not sure I can pinpoint the exact day/moment my small child life moved into a life of reasoning, questioning, and a new understanding of the 'real' world.

Two older brothers might have had a bit to do with it. They left the realm of small child fantasies behind a few years before I did. They loved to inform and in turn inhibit such small child fantasy.

I have two children that I allowed to be 'children' as long as I could let them without failing them as a good parent to educate and inform.... but all in due time.

The 'real' world life would soon enough envelope them in its sometimes harsh and trying moments. I sure wasn't going to open that door until I absolutely had to.

As I look back, I hold no ill will towards my parents for letting me be innocent and carefree for just a little while. At times I wish I could go back to that time and forget all the BS of the world that awaits me outside my door every single day. I open that door and step outside of my comfort zone with a positive attitude and most days I succeed at the end of the day to return inside my door to my home/comfort zone without being touched by whatever BS tried to take me in/down/whatever.

So.... In answer to 'should parents tell their kids the truth about Santa? Who knows? If a parent is lucky enough, they won't have to until they absolutely have to when and if the child asks.

 

[MoonOwl]

I understood you 100%. :thumbup

Good to know. Sometimes I think I'm being clear and end up stepping in it.

Read This Link

I believed in Santa as a small child. My small child life was magical and full of surprise and wonder. I never had a doubt in my small child mind that Santa existed right along with the Tooth Fairy and Cinderella and the Easter Bunny. My dolls and stuffed animals were just as real to me then too.

I'm not sure I can pinpoint the exact day/moment my small child life moved into a life of reasoning, questioning, and a new understanding of the 'real' world.

Two older brothers might have had a bit to do with it. They left the realm of small child fantasies behind a few years before I did. They loved to inform and in turn inhibit such small child fantasy.

I have two children that I allowed to be 'children' as long as I could let them without failing them as a good parent to educate and inform.... but all in due time.

The 'real' world life would soon enough envelope them in its sometimes harsh and trying moments. I sure wasn't going to open that door until I absolutely had to.

As I look back, I hold no ill will towards my parents for letting me be innocent and carefree for just a little while. At times I wish I could go back to that time and forget all the BS of the world that awaits me outside my door every single day. I open that door and step outside of my comfort zone with a positive attitude and most days I succeed at the end of the day to return inside my door to my home/comfort zone without being touched by whatever BS tried to take me in/down/whatever.

So.... In answer to 'should parents tell their kids the truth about Santa? Who knows? If a parent is lucky enough, they won't have to until they absolutely have to when and if the child asks.

Exactly!

 

[Dana]

Read This Link

I believed in Santa as a small child. My small child life was magical and full of surprise and wonder. I never had a doubt in my small child mind that Santa existed right along with the Tooth Fairy and Cinderella and the Easter Bunny. My dolls and stuffed animals were just as real to me then too.

I'm not sure I can pinpoint the exact day/moment my small child life moved into a life of reasoning, questioning, and a new understanding of the 'real' world.

Two older brothers might have had a bit to do with it. They left the realm of small child fantasies behind a few years before I did. They loved to inform and in turn inhibit such small child fantasy.

I have two children that I allowed to be 'children' as long as I could let them without failing them as a good parent to educate and inform.... but all in due time.

The 'real' world life would soon enough envelope them in its sometimes harsh and trying moments. I sure wasn't going to open that door until I absolutely had to.

As I look back, I hold no ill will towards my parents for letting me be innocent and carefree for just a little while. At times I wish I could go back to that time and forget all the BS of the world that awaits me outside my door every single day. I open that door and step outside of my comfort zone with a positive attitude and most days I succeed at the end of the day to return inside my door to my home/comfort zone without being touched by whatever BS tried to take me in/down/whatever.

So.... In answer to 'should parents tell their kids the truth about Santa? Who knows? If a parent is lucky enough, they won't have to until they absolutely have to when and if the child asks.

I think we all do whether some want to admit it or not. People become too serious and think you have to act in a certain way when you get a certain age. HOGWASH! :clap:clap

 

[sexysadie]

Perhaps if people didn't feel the need to bash those with opposing opinions people wouldn't get touchy.

If you feel you're right in lying to your children, so be it. Justify away. But please don't take it out on those that disagree with you by insulting or baiting them. It's childish and petty.

So calling us all liars is ok then?...lmbo just sayin' .....pot meet kettle, kettle...pot...lol

 

[sexysadie]

I can't wait to raise a kid that knows that santa is not only a fraud, but a fraud that rewards inequality, supports destructive consumerism and perpetuates religious notions under a different guise. My child can then ruin all the other kids' Christmas Days for them

If you really believed that your way is best, then why would you use the word 'ruin' when describing what it would do to another childs Christmas....wouldn't you believe that you're making them better people by telling them the truth or is ruining somebody's Christmas what it's all about for you? I myself don't give a rats ass what you tell your children, and if you raise a child who'd be encouraged to do such a thing, I hope you can afford a whole lot of councelling because he or she will be a loner and they'll probably grow up to hate your guts...lol...Merry Christmas.

 

[mazHur]

What makes me wonder is 2 ladies Santa-sizing!!