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My beloved's laptop is on its last leg. Now the second hardrive I've bought for it won't boot. We've ordered her a new netbook, but I want to get into the hard drive to copy her files.

BIOS setup works, and booted the machine with the recovery disk so I know the machine still runs, but I don't want to wipe the hard drive yet.

How can I make a bootable CD for Windows XP so I can recover her stuff?
 
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The boot sector is out. It won't boot up. Being an old guy, I would make a bootable floppy but my notebook (the computer I'm using now) doesn't have a floppy drive. It's like the front door is locked and the key's broke off in the keyhole.

If I use the recovery disc, it'll wipe out everything that wasn't originally installed, won't it?

The new netbook finally arrived. Cute little white Samsung with a 10 inch screen. Looks like we grabbed it before it grew up all the way. :D
 

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:confused Apparently not.

The idea being that you put your hard drive in a ziplock type bag to avoid condensation, then stick it in the freezer a while (seems 24 hrs is a norm from what I've read before).

Then pop it back in your comp and bingo, should work - until it warms up. Gives you a chance to at least extract files to something else quickly.

Reason it's supposed to work is that freezing will cause the various contacts etc in the drive to contract, re-enabling connections and allowing the drive to work. From what I've read, quite a few have had success at least enough to be able to get some critical stuff off.

I've never tried it personally - never had a drive that dead.
 

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Depending on how handy you are with computers...

You can pull the hard drive completely out of the machine and plug it into another computer as a slave drive (your not using it to boot from) then transfer your files to your good hard drive.
I had to do this a couple of times... I couldn't boot from the drive but I could see the files when plugged into another machine.
 

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Depending on how handy you are with computers...

You can pull the hard drive completely out of the machine and plug it into another computer as a slave drive (your not using it to boot from) then transfer your files to your good hard drive.
I had to do this a couple of times... I couldn't boot from the drive but I could see the files when plugged into another machine.

thats what my bf done with his mates hard drive.. my hard drive got stolen.. it was a sore loss.. i miss her every day :'(
 

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Depending on how handy you are with computers...

You can pull the hard drive completely out of the machine and plug it into another computer as a slave drive (your not using it to boot from) then transfer your files to your good hard drive.
I had to do this a couple of times... I couldn't boot from the drive but I could see the files when plugged into another machine.
I installed this hard drive (It's the second one for this laptop) so the techie part isn't a problem, but I'm pretty sure my notebook doesn't have space for a second drive. Maybe I'll give the freezer a try. Nothing to lose, really.
 

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My beloved's stuff?

Here's how to do this.

If you believe the laptop is on its last leg and that is the reason why it won't boot, then there's a possible chance that even using boot CD may not work or will just end up copying corrupt data. Reason for this is because that drive is still inside a laptop that is damaged or is dying.

Take out the hard drive. Next step would be to connect it as a usb drive to the new netbook to transfer the files. Since the netbook that you bought will NOT have a 2nd IDE or SATA port to hook up to like a desktop this means you will have to buy a IDE to USB or SATA to USB converter.

if the old hard drive that you pull out from the laptop has connectors like this
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it means it's IDE and you will need to get 2.5" IDE to USB converter.

however, if it has connect like this,
wdfscorpioblue_sata.jpg

then it means it's an SATA. and you will need to get a SATA to USB converter.

they are actually pretty cheap. You can order one for from $20 to $40. It will be a data cable with power adapter and power cable combo.

it will look like this.

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Notice it has powercable, and adapter, and has a converter with usb cable on one end, and sata cable on the other, and this device also has 2 additional ports for 3.5" IDE (desktop hard drive) and 2.5" IDE (laptop hard drive) and it will come with instructions. You do NOT need to install a driver for it since for many years now USB drives have been plug n play. Just connect your drive, plug the power, and then connect the usb portion to the new computer. this device is listed as being $22.84 at
PC Connection - SATA IDE to USB 2.0 Adapter-Cable

I do however recommend spending just about $15 more and getting a real nice docking station for SATA if it turns out your old laptop hard drive is in fact an SATA. I have one that works with both Desktop hard drives and laptop hard drives and it's great. this is what I have or similar to what I have. this item is listed as $39 at

PC Connection - BLACX 2.5 3.5" SATA Hard Drive ESATA and USB Docking Station
and looks like
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Now on the note of preventive measures. THis advice is for everyone.
There's nothing like having a backup, backup, backup. I highly recommend having either a device like above with a nice size 1TB or 1.5 TB Seagate hard drive which costs about $180 or less these days. Or you can buy a WD passport drive if you need portability.

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With first hardware solution you get a pretty good size storage for your money but you will spend a few bucks on that docking station. If you go with getting a very light weight portable WD passport usb drive, you will not get as much storage space for the same bucks cause it's hard for manufacturers to fit so much storage into a tiny hard drive like they can in larger desktop hard drives.

Now for software. I will recommend 3 different backup softwares that do different things.

1. HandyBackup - probably ideal solution for beginners and anyone else who just wants a simple file only backup solution. This backs up all your documents, pictures, music, and anything else you want backed up on schedule bases to destination you specify.

2. BeyondCompare - this software is a bit technical but it's so full of features it's worth the money. It allows you to sync 2 different folders (for example, your C:\users\JohnDoe folder to your Usbdrive\laptopbackup) and so if you do this regularly you will have exact duplicate of all your files AND the folder structure of your laptop data in an external usb drive.

3. Acronis Backup & Recovery 10 - I currently own this but it costs money. I paid over $100. Yes I love it that much. It backs up your hard drive partitions. It does full, incremental, differential. It backs up not just your documents but it is mainly for backing up your whole hard drive including your operating system and ALL its installed software with all the registration activated and such. Reason why this software is so good is imagine that your hard drive out right burned up and crashed. You can spend hours installing os, and ALL the software AND re-activating and THEN restoring the files
OR
You can just use Acronis Backup & Recovery 10 and take as little as 8 to 10min restoring your whole hard drive data to a new drive in the same exact structurer you had the old one. And Just reboot and you will be back up and running with your windows working and activated. all your software installed and activated, and ALL the settings that you changed still being set the way they are supposed to be and most importantly all your documents.

Yeah I do this for a living. Have a nice day.
 

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Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. Thanks, Ertragen. (I've always read your nick as "estrogen" :D)
I'm almost certain it's an IDE connection. I'll check before spending my money, of course. San Antonio's a big city so I might be able to find the connection in stock here somewhere.
 

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Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. Thanks, Ertragen. (I've always read your nick as "estrogen" :D)
I'm almost certain it's an IDE connection. I'll check before spending my money, of course. San Antonio's a big city so I might be able to find the connection in stock here somewhere.

actually the item that I posted a pic of... It works with both SATA and IDE connection. so you won't even have to check which type your drive is. One other other is to buy something called "enclosure". If turns out your hard drive is NOT broken and you can recover data, if you buy an enclosure(which works like that adapter thing) instead of the adapter with cables and such, because enclosure is basically a box that allows you to put a drive inside, you can use your old drive a portable USB drive. Isn't that cool?

If I'm wrong I'll kiss your wife.
 
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I installed this hard drive (It's the second one for this laptop) so the techie part isn't a problem, but I'm pretty sure my notebook doesn't have space for a second drive. Maybe I'll give the freezer a try. Nothing to lose, really.


it doesnt..only 1 drive per laptop.
 

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is he set up for raid?

"he" is not setup for raid if you are talking about Accountable.
and my computer isn't setup for raid. Mine is one of many that can't be set up for raid.

I do however would LOVE to own one of these though. or something similar but with a display with 4 bay, print server, windows network sharing access, ftp, media server, LED display, and auto repair.

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*has an orgasm*
 

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"he" is not setup for raid if you are talking about Accountable.
and my computer isn't setup for raid. Mine is one of many that can't be set up for raid.

then how could he do this

I personally would probably try going for striping mode. Just use external for backup and not do any mirroring. Striping mode for pure speed.

what is this machine you speak of that "cant" be set up for raid?..not even with an add-on card??
 
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